Thread: Simple High Profit low Drawdown Triangular Arbitrage

Hi, I'm interesting to your EAs Can I ask some question?

How can you calculate ASK and BUY lineup with average?

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No risk no profit,unbalanced system contain risk,where the profit come in,so don't be afraid of risk,you have to control it not to avoid it.To control risk you can restrain your open lots.

This is simple just trading. Thus has nothing trading. And that regular trading is of course possible with great wins. But how it was described by jvbjacques, positions that are such to start out, so he looks to absolute beginners' trade and cant view it. And its significant that he comes to a level to judge, what he 21, to help him. Years, or you will lose, its like he, with his arbitrage dont want to understand basics and thats lose this time with things, that cant win.
At the same time he could devise a very winning system just with trading.

In trading, you have to understand basics and you need to see, once you are mistaken. If you judge and cant see matters even after long term traders help you with errors, its a near 100% chance you will no get it to a fantastic level in trading. First issue that is significant is being objective. The market dont take care of intangible.

@dukas_trader
Welcome back
I overlooked you

You are right in that I'm stupid when it comes to Foreign Exchange, but this is why I do so to learn.
I have been doing Foreign Exchange for 10 years on and off and programming for 33 years, but I heard more in the last few months about Foreign Exchange compared to at the whole of my 10 Foreign Exchange years.
Heck I even leaned both MT4 and MT5 code and in 3 days I heard Jtrader.
What entertaining.

I only thought why should I learn alone and why not share what I learn and also this thread is where I do it and WOW the answer from most everyone was great.

In my 10 years I have written far more than 700 EAs, but none showed the potential of this arbitrage.

As for unbalanced arbitrage not being arbitrage but standard trading THEN I may also say balanced arbitrage can also be normal trading.
Normal trading covers a broad range of trading egies and this is exactly what these are.
Unbalanced is still arbitrage, but where one of those legs are not as well balanced as others, but nevertheless creates a cushion against sharp motion, without fully removing tendencies and other potential profit situations.
Technically it is not possible to get a great triangular arbitrage mathematically, but we could get close
The larger the spread and slippage the more unbalanced the arbitrage must be to make up for it and @NANTONG is right in that with NO RISK there's NO PROFIT, but this at least restricts the risk.

As for the EA I watched running the live account being a newcomer for conducting profitable arbitrage for approximately two years or me for studying out of what she did.
Then yes.
If that is the way novices do matters then I'm a noob, but that does not bother me in the least as I'm enjoying the trip
Plus if I could make money like this noob then all noobs unite

I take in what everyone is saying, good or bad and learn from all.
I have not reached the point at which I could say for sure this is profitable or profitable, but it looks good and it is FAR from a waste of time out of everything I have heard so far

If you need to discourage someone from attempting something new like this then discourage me, but leave others from it please
I could take it and best of all I agree with a lot of your things, but I am not one to give up on something before I could prove it without a shadow of a doubt it won't work and I'm not there yet.

And why do you think that it is so expensive?
Yes it is 3 trades, however you pay about precisely the exact same price in spread as one trade that is 3 times the size.
Same rules as in regular trading applies to lot increase and trading according to a % of your account size.

I'd love to know what egy you are using.
I know the fundamentals and I also know the fundamentals alone won't make profit for you you should have some type of golden egy.
Please discuss since I have seem some wonderful egies which has been PMed to me that I would love to look into one day and yours might be one of them.
I am sure you've got something good you can share please.

In any case.
Enjoy




@VANILLANONT
I basically do the following for the 3 symbols.
1) I capture the current starting (1) ASK, (2) BID, (2) BID.

2) WHITE LINE
After every price movement I subsequently perform a triangular calculation employing the starting prices in point (1) against and also the current ASK, BID, BID then calculate the amount of profit I'd have had at that point.
The point is that the profit at that point.

3) RED LINE
After every price movement I subsequently perform a triangular calculation employing the starting prices in point (1) against and also the current BID, ASK, ASK then calculate the amount of profit I'd have had at that point.
The point is that the profit at that point.

4) So basically the two lines are exactly the same, with a spread in-between.
I also add commission to the WHITE line to ensure I take this too into account.

5) I then calculate the average between the lines over time and use this initially as the entrance and exit points, but EA 19 isn't doing that properly.
However to do would be to recalculate everything after every trade open to get the new exit point viewing that with slippage the exit point and the WHITE/RED lines need to move to accommodate the new starting slipped price, which isn't a huge thing, but requires time.



@EVERYONE
Well.
Time to choose a little.
Enjoy.
If you guys get a break-thru then please discuss.
I'll be checking in from time to time.

And for people believing there query is too stupid to ask or their egy does not belong here.
I say bull twang.
The only stupid question isn't a question in any way.
I have found that I learn the most out of NOOBS, because they are not educated by others into believing that everything must work this way and not this way and this way I could start to think beyond the box with them.

I have had many students who've taught my great skills from thing I'd not have guessed is relevant.
Go mad and love.

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@ Welcome back I missed you You're correct in that I'm dumb when it comes to Foreign Exchange, but this is the reason why I am doing so to learn. I have been doing Foreign Exchange for 10 years on and off and programming for 33 decades, but I heard more in the past couple of months about Foreign Exchange than in all of my 10 Foreign Exchange years. I even leaned both MT4 and MT5 code and in 3 days I heard Jtrader. What fun. I only thought that why must I learn alone and not share what I learn and this thread is where I get it done and WOW the response out of...

I dont say you are dumb, only wasting a lot of time often with impossible things.

Of course arbitrage is a part of trading, but very unique. Arbitrage systems in mt4 try to allow the broker pay for the wins, so the brokers had then the issue with the orders that has been with prices quoted, that are not so on the market. But anyway, lets say .

For your stage: And why would you think it's so expensive?
Yes it's 3 transactions, however you pay about the exact same price in spread as one trade that is 3 times the size.
Same principles as in normal trading applies to lot increase and trading in accordance with a % of your account size.

You cover much more spread in 3 currencies trading, then simple trade in one! And commision, also maybe rollover.
And you have not as much margin use and trading because you're able to tade with much smaller values the same. You need to bother it or do some example calculations. Thats important points you need to understand.

When you understand the basics, thats very good. However, I have never seen one who knows the basics and then dont easy generate egies. Knowing the basics there's one part inside, how to find, develop, fair backtest, program and transaction tradingsystems. You need to learn all basics.

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@dukas_trader Welcome back I missed you I'd really like to understand what egy you're using. I understand the basics and I know the basics alone won't make profit for you so you must have some sort of golden egy. As I have seem please share. I am sure you have something great you can share please. In any case. Love

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in the event that you need to dissuade someone from trying something new such as this then dissuade me, but leave other people from it

Love the nice and smart answer here. But I think you ask too much, he will never show you whatever as he never exchanged for real, he is just a talker.

Geting back to topic, would you think that taking transactions near S/R and here depend on how we define this S/R- possibly as last swing high/low, possibly timeless ones, possibly NY Close degree etc could improuve anything? I mean to include 'filter' this condition, as S/R to activate. Ofcourse, all getting down to GBPUSD levels.

thanks

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quote quote Love the smart and fine answer here. But I think you ask too much, he will never show you whatever as he never traded for real, he is just a talker. Geting back to topic, would you think here depend on how that S/R is defined by us and that taking trades near S/R - as swing high/low, either ones, either NY Close level etc could improuve anything? I mean to add as'filter' this condition, as S/R to activate. Ofcourse, all getting down to levels. Thanks

that the offical clown of forum, fx decoration for no discussions is back.
I actually missed you unqualified answers for some days

understand the basics man, then you are going to understand, that telling a intraday trading egy to many folks, will ruin the egy. You're such a beginner, you dont know so basics.

@ jvbJacques
In my 10 years I have written far over 700 EAs, but none revealed the potential of the arbitrage.
So in the event that you're able to work all time on this matter,perhaps you can make a living with this ea,and get wealthy and of course do not have to program for fee,but for fun.What a wonderful thing to do,why not?You do not have to work for African American greedy corporation and live a free life,you are free from the fight for living.If I had been you,I'd do this,save money to reside for a period of time to create this item online and collect some money to begin trading for living.There are individuals living in hell, and struggle to make a little money to keep alive,and as a result of greedy corporation and greedy huge boss.I heart from the Internet that South Africa is ruled by blacks,they had ruined the whole nation and dominate the snowy people.Is it true?

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@ jvbJacques In my 10 years I've written far more than 700 EAs, but none revealed the possibility of the arbitrage. Therefore, in the event that you can work all time on this matter,perhaps it's possible to earn a living with this ea,and get rich and of course don't need to plan for fee,but for fun.What a wonderful thing to do,why not?You don't need to work for African greedy company and live a free life,you're free from your fight for living.If I were you,I would do this,save money to live for a time period sufficient...

theres the issue with arbitrage experts. They looks good in theorie, backtest and demo account trading, so individuals believe this potnetial is extrem. They spend time inside and money. They check only later it cant function in this sort, hardware is much more important than software from arbitrage trading.

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quote thats the problem with arbitrage specialists. They looks good in theorie, backtest and demo account trading, people believe this potnetial is extrem. They spend time inside and sometimes money. They check later in reality that it cant work in this sort, hardware is considerably more important than software in arbitrage trading.

I had forward test the unbalanced system I had post,it made 12% growth from the monday,and still growing,I can't wait to place it on live account,I am now considering the risk,yes,it contains risk,yet this system surely demonstrate the potential,the key is to control risk,after which it'll grow like rocket.

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quote that the offical clown of forum, fx trophy for no arguments is back. I missed you unqualified replies for some times understand the basics man, then you are going to know, that telling a intraday trading egy to folks, will destroy the egy. You are such a newcomer, you dont know so straightforward basics.

You are such a f*cked up dude

I trade for living for more years now than you have been speaking about it. You are just a mounth ready to'instruct' to'fix' and to'discipline' others whenever they would like to try new items or items. You are so awful as personality that not even your mother will kiss you when she'd knew the facts about you

sorry to be this offtopic