Thread: As Simple as 1-2-3

I have been trading for a couple of decades, I am a newbie and just like a lot of people I have researched many ways to create money in the forex market. I have been reading posts here, for a while now and while there is a lot of good information, I see a lot of individuals who trade with no egies. If you can not make money in this market after reading the James16 thread or twoblink's thread (some of it) then you are not expecting yourself or your . I know a lot of people have tried to turn $100 inot $1,000,000 but they rarely posts their egies. I'm probably not going to be a millionarie tomorrow but I've a egy to get their 10 years from now. I have an account balance of quite little and well I will use my trading system as leverage to turn it into a lot. Some individuals will skip this, I might not get any looks whatsoever but I don't care.lt;? Xml:namespace prefix = o ns = urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office /gt;lt;ogt;lt;/ogt;

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The is a egy taught to me by Phil Newton and Buk called the lt;? Xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = prefix:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags /gt;lt;st1:date Month=1 Day=2 Year=2003gt;1-2-3 lt;/st1:dategt;. I can't post a URL to his website but he's one with several trading movies where he teaches his . This way is approximately 70% effective when used on pairs all accross the board. Lt;ogt;lt;/ogt;

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If I've 5k in my account I will be using 3 percent of my account fairness to trade with. Furthermore position size (i.e.) amount of contracts is based on the size of my stoploss. If I've a stoploss of 50pips having a account size of 5k and a risk of 3%, then I will be risking $150 for THIS commerce in monetary price and my stoploss of 50 pips determines that I will have the ability to create or lose $3 per trade. This isn't a daredevil system and you might probably maximize this even further but this is a marathon, and moreover I don't have the heart for big drawdowns.lt;ogt;lt;/ogt;

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In addition to lt;st1:date Month=1 Day=2 Year=2003gt;1-2-3s lt;/st1:dategt; I will be utilizing a few of James16 approaches for trading, although my main source of income is through the use of lt;st1:date Month=1 Day=2 Year=2003gt;1-2-3 lt;/st1:dategt; patterns.lt;ogt;lt;/ogt;

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There is a stage where price treandline break. A trendline isn't necessarily a diagonal line, it's a stage of support and resistance. And therefore In come cases I'd consider things other people believe to be S/R, to be a trendline. When a trendline is ready to be brokenup, the market may sometimes indie this with a pattern called a lt;st1:date Month=1 Day=2 Year=2003gt;1-2-3 lt;/st1:dategt;. Basically a higher low followed by a violation at the trendline (T/L) or S/R. Lt;ogt;lt;/ogt;

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If you look at the attachment, (can someone tell me the way to get my pictures in the post?) You'll see what I am refering to. I'm adding more pictures so you see its a re-occurring pattern. The next image shows another, clearly labelled and herin lies the need to follow attributes of this .lt;ogt;lt;/ogt;

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1. There MUST, absolutely must be a violation of a trendline! If you don't stick to this, it might work out but you won't have a win/loss ration even close to what's possible.lt;ogt;lt;/ogt;

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2. This WAS a filter but it became apparent it was an essential part of the that I made it mandatory. You ought to be trading close to some round number or emotional resistance. Round amounts are points of choice and basically you have to appear at numbers like 1.3000, 1.2500 even 1.2550. These are things individuals naturally look for.lt;ogt;lt;/ogt;

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3. Both aspect of this pattern must land on a place of previous resistance and be at or close to some round number.lt;ogt;lt;/ogt;

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4. The three aspect of this pattern ought to be equivalent to or greater than a 50% retracement of this 1 aspect of this pattern. I prefer if the three aspect bounces straight off a fib retracement, but this is too rigorous a filter but it does instill CONFIDENCE.lt;ogt;lt;/ogt;

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Fib retracements are drawn from the 1 aspect of this pattern into the 2, with a goal of 161.8%. I enter 4 lots and then after my goal is reached I remove 3 lots, move my stop to breakeven and allow another lot fly...it could increase profits dramatically.lt;ogt;lt;/ogt;

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One thing to remember. Don't cheat on your trendlines. I know it sounds dumb but I have lost many transactions seeking to place a trendline where there is not one. Better stay out when you're unsure. And remember this is a counter trend trade and you don't wish to conduct this trade with no stoploss it might cause devastation to a equity. I hope I have the time and tools to place my trades here and a few individuals are able to learn from it and I will too.lt;ogt;lt;/ogt;

How many pips following tl break do enter?

As there is often breaks of a few pips tht a fictitious, an d wind up bouncing, and I presume u dont wait to get pub close, or do u?

thnks

Thanks for posting, you trade this on 4hr or daily charts? Are the moves worth the hold? I enjoy the simplicity... and this isnt the first time I had seen people liking this method. . Or a relation to it.

I don't really understand it the way you're describing your egy, but can it be like my 1-2-3 thread in the Beginner's section?

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I don't really understand it how you are describing your egy, but is it such as my 1-2-3 thread in the Beginner's section?

Andersenws

same installment. The phil newton situation has as a condition a trendbreak for this pattern to be a reversal.

It can be also utilized for continuation.

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I do not really understand it how you're describing your method, but is it such as my 1-2-3 thread in the Beginner's part?

Andersenws

I believe there are a range of 1-2-3 approaches, the essence bieng that the three stage is a lower high in an uptrend or a high low in a down trend.

One diff is that the Ross 1-2-3 does not utilize a trend line break to input, you either enter on the rest of this 2 stage or utilize the trader's trick entrance.

There are some fantastic filters here such as 2-3 mut be 50% 1-2. That prevents you from viewing noise as the 3 point.

A lot of what's in this method makes sense out of a TA perspective.

SilverB

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how many pips after tl break do enter?

As there is often fractures of a few pips tht a fictitious, an d end up bouncing, and I assume u dont wait for bar close, or do u?

Thnks

The answer is, it depends on the timeframe. Normally on the decrease timeframe I wait for a pullback to the trendline and enter when I receive a rest of this candle which broke the trendline (hope which makes sense).

On the daily or 4 hour timeframe where I could be on the job while its breaking, I enter on a break of the trendline with a limit order.

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Thanks for posting, you ever trade this on 4hr or daily charts? Are the moves that are larger worth the hold? I like the ease... and this sure isnt the first time I'd seen folks liking this particular method. . Or a close connection to it.

I used to get burnt using this method on the bigger timeframes, but that's when I found that the power of the trendline break. Without that, we do not have a transaction. And as I mentioned I believe resistance and encourage in certain cases for a trendline. Here's my case as of today. Attached you'll see a simple 1-2-3 for the GBP that caould have already been recognised on the 4hr or daily chart.

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I don't really understand it the way you're describing your method, but can it be like my 1-2-3 thread in the Beginner's section?

Andersenws

Its nearly the exact same setup, the way you exchanged it, I don't anymore. How I trade this, and the way Phil Newton trades it, its about a 70-75% probability of completion. I think your method is different.

Yes it may be applied as a continuation pattern.

The USD/CHF is my favorite for 1-2-3s, the chart is confusing due to the mulitude of them. See if you're able to decipher it...

I play the 123 on 15 minute charts by I use a small technique to get me in a lot earlier after point and point 2 are formed I place a fib on and also when price gets to exactly what I call the 50 to 62% zone I search for price action hint to input. Its usually a doji hammers spinning top etc. then use this reversal bar as my trigger bar giving me a very low risk trade heres a chart