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    The Holy Grail........Found

    I have been reside trading forex solely for the last 4 decades and losing consistently. I have spent thousands on what must be at least a hundred courses/systems. I paid $2000 to get a mentorship plan from a trader that eventually was demoned to be a fraud (I did the investigation). Nothing I ever tried worked to generate the guaranteed steady flow of revenue. I have read novels from Douglas' Trading in the Zone to Horner's Trading Forex to Willi' Trading Chaos. Nothing worked. I gradually have come to this conclusion that all forex system vendors/gurus are frauds (Birdwatching in Lion Country comes to mind).

    A few months ago I bought another valueless system that later purchase was discovered to be based on moving averages, Fibonacci, and divergences. Literally, at the same point that I felt duped again by purchasing this system, I had that famous Ah-ha moment that plogists have spoke about (and that I never believed in). Very suddenly I realized the way to trade. This epiphany was massively overwhelming. Since that day six months before, I have solely traded my method, which jointly uses only one indior. Forget Fibonacci, overlook pivots. Just how a lot more traders have to emphasise that lagging indiors do not work before neglecting traders, such as I was, consider them? I, for one, have passed that hurdle. I have had 6 losses in the 240 transactions because I started using my method, taken. Unquestionably, it's the Holy Grail (and they say that it does not exist - HA!) . It is both profoundly logical and easy. It is the consequence of subtle input from several systems that fail because they ignore the simple fact of who drives prices plus they attempt to predict price movement. However, these systems each had a kernel of truth behind them, and I suspect these kernels of fact finally attained a critical mass within my brain that resulted in my epiphany.

    For the first time I'm consistently profitable using a egy that I did not have to buy and can be way more logical than anything else I have ever seen. I trade without anxiety, quite a novelty. I needed to be exposed to (and fleeced by) trading mentors/gurus before I found the Holy Grail does exist but no vendor will sell it. No vendor/mentor that I have come in contact with has something close.

    The objective of this post isn't to tease readers into buying a system that I will be selling at a subsequent date (the only legitimate approach to train a student to trade a method is to get it done 1-1 in individual with a live account). Its objective is only to allow them to understand the Holy Grail will exist and are available by all that persist. I'm no genius. Here is some tips.

    I have not found a system vendor or mentor that could prove he traded reside. Think about that.
    There's only one reason a vendor/mentor will not divulge a live account announcement.

    Monitor articles daily at the forexforum.co.za forums. Several have helped since they have stimulated thought. Think about what should operate and why. Never stop thinking.

    James16 forum is well worth the money if only for a single month. Of all the systems I researched, his is nearest to the Holy Grail. His forum could set you on the right path. Sorry, Dial, however, PIN bars are not reliable enough for me personally, but PA is still king.

    The more expensive the system, the more cash spent on its own marketing than its material. The most expensive method I bought was a fancy 5/13EMA crossover using an RSI filter. It had very nice packaging, however.

    The primary requirements for successful live forex trading are patience and courage. The market is made up of traders using varying strength. This last statement is the secret.

    I hope this post was useful. There's light at the end of the tunnel, but it's only for the determined few. With persistence, just once you get totally fed up with discretionary systems, arcane indiors, and blowhard fraudulent vendors/gurus, the fog will clear and you, too, will get the Holy Grail.

  2. #2
    John are you ready to talk about your system?
    I have been tading for 1.5 yrs and not making money. And just like you, I've spent thousands of dollars on courses, systems and books nevertheless without results. Please, any help you may offer I am prepared to learn.
    pm me

  3. #3
    Well done glad you've got
    Tell me something are you currently a discretionary trader or do you have a system you follow to the letter?


    It isn't discretionary in any way. It is a method I follow to the letter. Always comply with the long term (gt;daily) trend.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    The Holy Grail........Found

    I've been reside trading forex exclusively for the last 4 decades and losing consistently. I've spent thousands on what has to be at least a hundred courses/systems. I even paid $2000 for a mentorship program from a trader that eventually was demoned to be a fraud (I personally did the investigation). Nothing I tried worked consistently enough to generate the promised steady stream of revenue. I've read books from Douglas' Trading in the Zone to Horner's Trading Forex Willi' Trading Chaos. Nothing worked. I gradually have come to the decision that all forex system vendors/gurus are frauds (Birdwatching in Lion Country comes to mind).

    Several months ago I bought another valueless system that later purchase was found to be based on moving averages, Fibonacci, and divergences. Literally, in the same time that I felt duped again by purchasing this system, I had that renowned Ah-ha second that plogists have spoke about (and I never thought in). Very suddenly I understood the suitable way to exchange. This epiphany was hugely overpowering. Since that day six months before, I have solely exchanged my egy, which incidentally uses just one indior. Forget Fibonacci, forget pivots. How many more traders must proclaim that lagging indiors don't work before failing traders, such as I was, believe them? I, for one, have passed that hurdle. I've had 6 losses at the 240 trades taken since I started using my egy. Unquestionably, it is that the Holy Grail (and they say that it does not exist - HA!) . It is equally profoundly logical and simple. It is the result of subtle input from many systems that fail because they ignore the simple fact of who drives prices and they attempt to predict price movement. But these systems each had a kernel of truth behind them, and I suspect that these kernels of fact eventually attained a critical mass in my mind that resulted in my epiphany.

    For the first time I'm consistently profitable using a egy that I didn't have to buy and is way more logical than anything I've ever seen. I trade without anxiety, rather a novelty. I had to be exposed to (and fleeced by) trading mentors/gurus before I discovered that the Holy Grail does exist but no vendor will sell it. No vendor/mentor that I've come in contact with has something even close.

    The objective of this article is not to tease viewers into buying a system that I am selling at a subsequent date (the only legitimate way to train a student to exchange a system would be to do it 1-1 in person with a live account). Its objective is only to allow them to understand that the Holy Grail does exist and are available by all that persist. I'm no genius. Here is some tips to ease its discovery.

    I have never found a system vendor or mentor who could prove he exchanged reside. Consider that.
    There's but one reason why a vendor/mentor won't disclose a live account statement.

    Monitor articles daily in the forexforum.co.za forums. Several have helped since they have stimulated thought. Consider what should work and why. Never stop thinking.

    James16 forum would be worth the money if just for one month. Of all of the systems that I studied, his is nearest to the Holy Grail. His forum could set you on the right path. Sorry, Dial, however, PIN pubs are not dependable enough for me personally, but PA is king.

    The more expensive the machine, the more money spent on its own marketing than its material. The most expensive system I purchased was a fancy 5/13EMA crossover with an RSI filter. It had very wonderful packaging, however.

    The principal requirements for successful live forex trading are courage and patience. The market consists of traders with varying advantage. This last statement is the key.

    I hope this article was useful. There's light at the end of the tube, however it is just for the determined few. With persistence, only when you get totally fed up with discretionary systems, arcane indiors, and blowhard fraudulent vendors/gurus, the fog will clear and you, also, will find the Holy Grail.
    median? pitchfork?

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    I think I'm on the exact same path you're (though I'm probably lagging 6 months past) and I must say I was motivated by feb along with his thread The Method (Irony Contained) here onforexforum.co.zain the Trading Systems section.

    I haven't created a trade based on what I think I have heard on that thread, however I was already able to carry on 2 trades I'd have taken with my prior system that consequently revealed to be losers.

    So even when I haven't profited from that head set at least so far I have avoided some losses.

    I hope everything continues to go well with your trading. Best to you.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    median? pitchfork?
    As I mentioned in my post, I do not use any arcane indiors. I believe the pitchfork an arcane indior. I strongly recommend spending at least a month using James 16. Study price action (PA) only, get rid of everything else off your chart, and just watch price action. I really don't give any weight to PIN bars (I've found them unreliable), interior bars, reversal bars, outside bars, dojis, hammers, and all of that stuff.

    Ask yourself this: when price goes to a certain level and ceases (forming an S/R level), why did it stop there? Who moved it there? Who will move it? And how does this all fit in with the long term trend?

    Think about why an indior works and you'll see there is no predictive value within them.

  7. #7
    Hi john ...

    I have had studied j16 PA too ... and I understood that price is really the king on almost any market you exchange.
    Was wondering if the only indior you use is for divergence ? ... ' cause I have been playing for awhile hith divergence and it's giving great results.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    hi john ...

    I've had studied j16 PA also ... and finally I understood that price is really the king on any market you exchange.
    Were wondering if the only indior you use is for divergence ? ... ' cause I've been playing for awhile hith divergence and it is giving good results.
    I have not discovered divergence to be reliable. Divergence is a way of trying to predict market direction. Usually divergence is apparent after the market has made many of its move. If used as a sign to where prices might go, it may be helpful (such as a filter), but it's unreliable as a cause. See my post #6. Time spent studying charts with no indiors whatsoever (such as oscillators that could diverge with price) and asking question posed in that post will go a very long way with everything you learned from James16.

  9. #9
    John thanks for the pm. I can not pm you yet as I still do not have enough articles. I Reside in Jamaica. I've done what you asked on the post#6 and I am not certain what to look for. Buyers stop buying when the price reaches a specific point and sellers move in at that point taking the price reduced and vice versa. What dimensions prevent losses do you utilize? Can you send or post an example of what you see and why?

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    The Holy Grail........Found

    Literally, in precisely the same time that I felt duped again by buying this particular system, I had that famous Ah-ha moment that plogists have talked about (and I never believed in). Quite suddenly I realized the method to trade. This epiphany was massively overwhelming....
    Thanks for your post! It certainly piqued my attention! I am left with one question what's the method to trade? In other words, how can you use courage, PA and patience to consistently profit in your Currency Market trading?

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