Suicide and forex

I'm curious as well, can't find too much regarding Foreign Exchange suicides.

However there are recorded crypto suicides. Normally when hopes are too high they can be shattered really badly.


http://www.globalcryptopress.com/201...ecause-of.html
https://www.suicideinfo.ca/resource/siecno-19830392/

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I'm interested in suicide among optional retail traders, who usually suffer the greatest plogical and financial distress and would be less likely to pull major news coverage. Does anybody have any articles or anecdotes to talk about retail trader suicides?

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You really going for an attempt?

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I am interested in suicide one of optional retail traders, who generally suffer the greatest plogical and fiscal distress and would be less likely to pull major news coverage. Does anybody have any articles or anecdotes to talk about retail trader suicides?

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Do not do it MING this place needs your standard negativity.

Https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threa...rading.297329/

I'm considering suicide among optional retail traders, who generally suffer the best plogical and financial distress and are less likely to attract major news coverage. Does anyone have any articles or anecdotes to share about retail trader suicides?

Q3D...?

or Copy...?

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I'm interested in suicide one of optional retail traders, who generally suffer the best plogical and fiscal distress and are less likely to pull major news coverage. Does anybody have any posts or anecdotes to share about retail trader suicides?

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Never see any post about this issue! But, I think the percentage will be quite low. Because; many of the new traders start their trading using a huge lose!

U r on wrong path partner, nonsense article


http://variety.com/2018/digital/late...eo-1202660515/

At one point -25 years back - concert violinists had the highest suicide rate of any job (not certain if that's still the case). There weren't nearly as numerous retail traders around back then, but the two pursuits mainly parallel each other. 8-10-12 hours daily practicing, having to push yourself as nobody else will do it; making the phrase, I can't, I have to practice your standard response whenever somebody wants to create plans with you; having to become painfully self-critical and man-up every error; having dre and ambitions of a degree of success and finally having to settle for something ; deciding at some point you are likely to do'the responsible thing' and find a real job and'continue doing it on the side'.

Seems familiar?

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At one point -25 years ago- concert violinists had the highest suicide rate of any job (not sure if that's still true ). There weren't nearly as numerous retail traders around back then, but the two pursuits mainly parallel each other. 8-10-12 hours daily practicing, having to push yourself because no one else can do itmaking the term, I can't, I need to practice your standard response whenever someone would like to create plans with you; having to become self-critical and man-up every mistake; having dre and ambitions...

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Yes it does.

Spot retail forex is a quiet killer... For some, it's a cancer which takes time to grow over several years and that can't be discussed about.
You can see the tip of the iceberg and all seems fine but below the water line is an enormous mass of dead bodies (many figuratively and some literally)

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quote Yes it does. Position retail forex is a silent killer... For some, it is a cancer that requires time to grow over many years and that can't be talked about. You may see the tip of the iceberg and all seems ok but below the water line is a huge mass of dead bodies (many figuratively along with some literally)

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On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

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quote On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

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True.
But one should strive to survive nicely.
Some activities are detrimental to good survival.

Why would anyone commit suicide if they are making money? If they are risking more than they could manage they could always just decide to quit losing so much...

Trading is straightforward. All you need is a line that is flat. Simply ask The Rumpled One.

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Why would anyone commit suicide if they are making money? If they are risking more than they can handle they can always just decide to stop losing so much... Trading is straightforward. All you will need is a horizontal line. Simply ask The Rumpled One.

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I really don't have a response with this...
Maybe an analogy might help

So you've got terminal cancer?
Well, all you've got to do is get better, okay?

99.9999% drop in Currency Market and the winners of now become the winners of tomorrow

inside this population you'll have extreme instances on both ends.

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quote I truly do not have a reply for this... Maybe an apology might help So you have terminal cancer? Well, all you have to do is get better, okay? 99.9999% drop in forex and the winners of today become the winners of tomorrow In this population you will have extreme cases on both ends.

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99.999% ?
That does not seem sensible

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quote 99.999% ? That does not appear sensible

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He's correct... 99.999% drop.

.001% perish before they shed.

And about 10% drop but get it done with enough style and elegance they win.

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quote I really don't have a reply for this... Maybe an analogy might help So you've got terminal cancer? Well, all you have to do is get better, okay? 99.9999% lose in forex as well as the winners of now become the losers of tomorrow Within this population you'll have extreme cases on both ends.

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Great analogy but silly solution. I don't actually feel that for a fantastic man passing is a dreadful thing.

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Why would anyone commit suicide if they're making money? If they're risking more than they could manage they could always simply opt to stop losing a lot... Trading is straightforward. All you will need is a line that is horizontal. Just ask The Rumpled One.

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I'm confident that you don't mean , but you're accidentally trivializing the reasons for suicide. The Actor Philip Seymour Hoffman, who killed himself a couple of years ago, was very successful, very hot and incredibly wealthy. People that are suicidal very often feel painfully alone, and can even feel lonely in their own birthday celebration surrounded by family and friends who sincerely love them.

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quote These feelings are insignificant... We're all alone in this world and were because the day of our birth. Some folks just do a much better job of forcing themselves otherwise because they're scared to stand alone. In addition they often drop money in the markets.

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You do not get it, but it's a fantastic thing you don't get it.

Edit: Pardon me, you added the second paragraph. There are various reasons for suicide, and certainly part of handling it's being tough, but that's a simplistic way of looking at it.

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At one point -25 years back - concert violinists had the maximum suicide rate of any job (not sure if that's still the case). There weren't nearly as numerous retail traders back then, but the two pursuits mainly parallel each other. 8-10-12 hours per day practicing, having to push yourself because no one else can do it; making the term, I can't, I have to practice your standard response whenever someone wants to create plans with you; having to be painfully self-critical and man-up each and every mistake; having dre and ambitions...

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Perhaps they are highly strung

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quote 99.999% ? That doesn't seem realistic

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The stat is quite true.


Trade forex for pleasure.

Buy assets for prosperity.

Price is random exactly what it does. With trading costs you cant beat this casino.

Well You Can Find 20 year old South Africans buying Benzes every month out of Forex look up jasonnoah_sa on Instagram, and You'll see that his students are also buying apartments, and cars, also cashflowngcobo drives a porsche amongst other Automobiles, jasonnoah_sa is a Commodity of goforex_wealth_creation look up on Instagram, biggest FX movement in South Africa in the moment, reason being that the students Are Still making money, Beginning their own Forex movements, wealth Production all about, yes in Africa we Performing this

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quote No. The point is: LCTM = ultra smart intelligent, and still they failed....

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There are lessons to be drawn out of the LCTM fiasco, but this is not one of these.

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Well You Can Find 20 Year-old South Africans buying Benzes every month from trading Forex look up jasonnoah_sa on Instagram, and you will see that his students are also buying Flats, and Automobiles, Additionally cashflowngcobo drives a porsche amongst other vehicles, jasonnoah_sa is a Commodity of goforex_wealth_creation look up on Instagram, biggest Currency Market movement in South Africa in the moment, reason being that the students are making money, Beginning their own Forex movements, wealth creation all around, yes in Africa we Performing this

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No Apparent bullshit allowed here

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quote No bullshit Permitted here

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I Know your pain Pity, it hurts me Also that I've been trading since 2015 and haven't found success, I Notice you joinedforexforum.co.zain 2011 Likely trading alot longer than that, and here these kids come in 2016, buying benzez and Flats at 2018, thats like spitting on your face

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quote There are lessons to be drawn out of the LCTM fiasco, but that is not one of these.

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Actually yes, it is but one of these.

However, the major lesson is that over time many conflicts can be won but not the war.

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quote I concur, trading is more art that an innate ability to read a chart than mathematics. Academics make the traders was a quote in this documentary. Before you set one dollar on a trade, you must be aware of the risk. If the risk is too great do not take the trade. There will always be another opportunity. Trading is an activity which is not suited to everyone. You can not pick up a novel, watch a few videos, do a 2 day course and bingo, you are a Trader. You could have a maths degree and a entire whiz kid with statistics, but that is...

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right, the more you think about it the more you will lose...

at times the market will seem to follow trading practise but it is too contradicting...

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quote In fact , it's but one of them. But the lesson is that over time but not the war.

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This is simply BS. Even the most intelligent people are able to behave stupidly but cannot mean others should abandon the activity. Driving would be abandoned globally once their vehicle anywhere crashed.

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quote There are lessons to be drawn from the LCTM fiasco, but that is not among them.

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The purpose is, LTCM's trading instruments and egies were highly complied, involving substantial borrowings and positional sizes which in no way, shape or form resemble the dimensional procedure of buying the dollar versus the pound or other currency pair.
Their egy relied on enormous black swan events such as the Asian Crisis or Russian default not occuring.
Unlike retail traders simply pressing buttons to initiate trades on their platforms, those men were left with enormous derivatives and other assets that they simply could not offload because everybody was selling also when the aforementioned crisis began.
To decrease this complex situation into a simple those men were super smart therefore there's not any hope for currency retail traders is a nothing more than a dissemination of false information.

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quote No. The point is: LCTM = super smart smart, and they failed You are able to rationalize all the would've, could've,should have but if the top of the very best finally fail for one reason or the other, the pie in the sky starts to have a really poor taste.

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No NO NOOO

LCTM = super super smart can do dumb things

They thought they could eliminate risk. What idiots. They deserved to drop all their cash and their investors cash.

SO many noobs place their view in smart folks.

Long-Term Capital Management L.P. was a hedge fund management firm based in Greenwich, Connecticut that utilized absolute-return trading egies combined with high financial leverage and proceeded bankrupt 20 decades ago, wtf was your purpose concerning companies like Renaissance, Virtu and many others I can mention?

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quote You have to have the ability to escape, while the getting out is great. --Trillion Dollar Bet quote LTCM disproves this at a stunning fashion. quote It only goes to show, they are humans just like you and I. They simply have more access to capital. They make trading mistakes . They can live in denial also, for awhile. While we blow off an account or two, they end up on the news and facing Congress.

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Let's know how you get on sending your cv off to Renaissance, don't be put off with their minimum level instructional necessity, or the simple fact that all the'traders' have PhDs. I'm positive if you point them to the $100 you are worth and the five GCSE passes at C you have in your locker, and the simple fact that you understand better, they'll give you an interview and in no time you're going to be a spouse.

https://www.rentec.com/Careers.actio...naissance=true

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quote Grandeur . Can you honestly believe you comprehend the boundless void any more? Better still, it should or your opinion matters to me? It seems that you are the one with the delusions of grandeur. My guess is you are still terrified of passing and trying despirately to reevaluate some justifiion for why you are even you. That's generally the factor when the children start considering things like'grandeur'. There is a classic figure of speech about kettles.

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Let us know how you get on sending your cv off to Renaissance, do not be put off with their minimum level instructional demand, or the simple fact that the'traders' have PhDs. I'm sure if you tip them to the $100 you are worth and also the five GCSE passes at C you've got in your locker, and the simple fact that you know better, they'll give you an interview and right away you'll be a partner. Https://www.rentec.com/Careers.actio...naissance=true quote

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You're dense.

And at the dream world you occupy you're wealthy and successful, you're not broken, gloomy, and scrambling about for a dollar or 2, desperately hoping to build a mirage and image on your own. I have seen thousands of you delusional Walter Mittys on trading forums because their inception, your damaged pathology never changes. In a couple of years you might develop a bit of humility once the realisation hits you that you're still at the exact same loion, nowhere.

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Possessing an master in maths/physics won't automatically guarantee you success in the markets.

I have studied physics for 2 years and I really don't know if I would call most of these people I met there smart whatsoever (No disrespect)...
There is absolutely a good possibility that some of them will develop good models which will triumph in the markets, but most of them will probably fail like the rest, particularly in trading.

The best traders I have met are very well-rounded:

- they've an good general understanding about business, economics and cash.
- They aren't afraid to take risks and do not seek constant confirmation and safety whatsoever.
- They have good skills in maths/stochastic and programming but can also be creative enough to develop new things from their comfort zone and examine them properly.
- They have an incredible competitive driveway, a winning mindset and do not shit their pants when things get rough.
- And above all, they do not lie to themselves.

Sigh, the”greatest traders you have met”, where, onforexforum.co.zaor in actual life?

Seriously, if you believe money is taken out of those markets, by men in their Mum's back bedroom, slumped over their ten year-old Dell laptop, then you are delusional. All that plogical”can perform” self help book nonsense hasn't cut it.

You men haven't got a clue, the image you have of what a trader is doesn't exist, you exist in a bubble and fantasy world.

Trading is now 95% automated, there's a space race on and you are not part of it. You are like kids playing with 1970's texet calculators whilst machine learning is taking off.

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With an master in maths/physics will not automatically guarantee you success in the markets. I've studied math for 2,5 years and I don't know whether I would call the majority of these people I met there clever... There's absolutely a good chance that some of them are going to develop excellent models that will triumph in the markets, but the majority of them will even fail like the rest, particularly in discretionary trading. The best traders I've met are extremely well-rounded: - They've got an excellent general understanding about business, economics and...

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A Texet? I wish.

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Sigh, the #8220;greatest traders you#8217;ve met#8221;, in which, onforexforum.co.zaor in actual life? Seriously, if you think money is taken from the markets, by men in their Mum#8217;s back bedroom, slumped over their ten year old Dell notebook, then you#8217;re delusional. It has never been cut by all that emotional # 8220; could do # 8221; self help book nonsense. You men haven#8217;t have a hint, the picture you have of what a trader is doesn#8217;t exist, you exist in a bubble and dream world. Trading is 95% automated, there#8217;s a space race on and you#8217. You#8217;re like children playing with 1970#8217;s texet calculators...

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1) Real Life
2) No
3) There are still a lot of succesful assets supervisors using a optional approach mostly
4) I'm not talking down AI

And just to put it clear: I'm NOT saying that mathematicians and physicists can not be extremely succesful in the markets, however it is not everything, from my observations that the well rounded guys had better achievement. It is only my experience so far and it could be far away from the truth.

I use a lot of data for my own trading, I could run a machine predied on them also it would be profitable but I prefer to use them as an indior only and make the decisions myself checking too various other factors (opinion, news, correlations by way of example) daily.

[quote=Spreadbetter;10777440]Sigh, the”best traders you've fulfilled”, where, onforexforum.co.zaor in actual life? Seriously, if you think money is taken from those markets, by men in their Mum's back bedroom, slumped over their ten year old Dell laptop, then you are delusional. All that plogical”can perform” self help book crap has ne

It depends upon on which side of the line you are loed with all the trading.

A system will lose you cash a lot quicker.
A lot of those crashes ranging back into the late 80s can be attributed to machines freaking out, they'd never of happened if we had people using ledgers.

With that said, you can have the best machines running (like I have but outside dated the very first time I used it) but when it is the incorrect way you will still lose.
I'm only saying rather than being unwanted.

The sort of sickening, misleading, vacuous, empty drivel, I've read thousands of occasions trading forums.

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The best traders I've met are extremely well rounded: - They have an good general knowledge about business, economics and cash. - They aren't afraid to take risks and don't seek out constant confirmation and security in everything. - They have good skills in maths/stochastic and programming but are also creative enough to develop new things out of the comfort zone and test them properly. - They have an incredible competitive driveway, a winning attitude and don't shit their pants if things become rough.

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The type of sickening, misleading, vacuous, empty drivel, I have read thousands of occasions on trading forums. quote

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It seems you can not accept an different view than yours and you also seem a little bit butthurt, but it is fine mate

You are an embarrassment and have revealed you suffer from delusions of grandeur.

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quote You don't have any understanding of what I comprehend. Don't make yourself look any more dumb. I am indifferent to their hiring process. I would've engaged in it, if I cared.

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