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    The Missing Link?

    I understand I've posted what some might consider to be quite wierd s#it before but even I will admit that this one is out there.

    Even after trading for so long I still feel that there is another factor to this that I, as yet, have not been able to unravel for my satisfaction.

    Why, when I'm working in a 3 Dimensional World, am I only looking at two of them? Chart
    Where/What is your Third Dimension?
    Volume? Not usable in Retail FX.
    Open Interest? I would dearly like to have a datastream on that.
    First Notice? Insert your Lengthy explanation here.
    Last Trading Day? That is one I can not think place tongue firmly in cheek which borkers do not routinely provide. Just for the Current/Spot will be sufficient.
    Hey Merlin, that are a swee. . .eet addition to the Calendar

    I've worked on this notion numerous times in the past but always end up throwing it back in the drawer till the next time.

    What IF:
    the chart you are looking at is not actually enjoy a bit of string laid onto a pleasingly colored background however is in fact a Coil such as a spring sitting on top of said pleasingly colored background.

    I am hoping Thom is right into this and possibly can generate a few graphics to assist explaine

    I despise Flat Markets!

    Imagine if we look at the Market rather than being Flat but is actually travelling in the 3rd Dimension?
    Either straight toward you or directly away from you.

    Would that assist in deciding an upcoming movement?

    Weekend ramblings of sitting in the Home Office make it raining and I can not mow the yard

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;
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    HEY... Take the bickering outside! Then come back in with legitemate ideas.
    Both of you've made me think together your thought proccess and possibly one of you is ideal.
    No Slamming Allowed. Simply open Minds on a quest for further understanding.

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    Anybody know about Fibonacci Spiral?

    This Fibonacci Spiral is something such as 3D kind of things.
    If anyone know how to use this system, please talk with me.


    Thank you.

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    Quite sorry. You're right we are open minded and that's the way we will get our new 3D charting.
    I don't have a problem being visually engaged with my charts. I think anybody that does would have a learning disorder. That is true and legitimate. My eyesight is really a 3D representation like CQG has done. It is charting and it's 3D. Why is it? What is the benefit of 3D? It reveals you another deminsion/another bit of advice.
    There is nothing new beneath the sun. Right now we are just hoping to see things. We are not attempting to create a new moving average or indior. We just need the candles to show another component of their creation that might lead us to the next candle's development to us. We ought to be concentrated on the topic although I believe we will need to have minds that are open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    HEY... Take the bickering outside! Come back in with ideas that are legitemate.
    No bickering intended . What's about what I said vs what everybody else has mentioned so 15, illegit?

    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    quite sorry. It's charting and it's 3D. Why is it 3D? What's the advantage of 3D? It reveals you another deminsion/another bit of information.
    Ah. Okay. The way I've been taught. . .the'3' in 3D is the z-axis. Meaning motion moving backwards and forwards. 'y' is up and down, and'x' is left and right. That is how I'm using it. The CQG price bars just go up and down, and just expand left and right correct? CQG isn't using the z-axis at all. I'm pretty sure that is what pip_hunter by stating it wasn't 3D intended.

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    maybe 3D is a misnomer for this thread. I'm not sure what you are after beyond this but I visit that the chart published here as with 3 measurements. X,Y,Z or B. We have a horizontal axis that measures ticks or period in this scenario ticks *20 each pub. Vertical measures price. Shadow implies the next dimension. Things that seem closer to the viewer are brighter. This is done everywhere from animations to bigscreen into the Army at which we put on camouflage to undo the brighter raised areas to make the face appear dimensional.
    Enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    ... but I see the chart posted here as with 3 dimensions. X,Y,Z or A,B,C.... Objects that appear closer to the viewer are far smarter...
    Love.
    Cool. I never noticed that but now you mention it I can not see it any other way.

    Can you define, in detail, how the parameters that determine if or not a candle should be Bright or Dark?

    Here is some of what I'm thinking.

    Require a Doji as an example. A candle that looks like nothing happened during it's timeframe. But what if this candle had a Volume or a huge Trade behind it. yeah yeah, I know, FXVolume is fallacy

    For me, that could indie Power at the Market that's no One Glance visual representation. The truth is that because it's travelling Directly off or off from 27, I'm looking at a really Busy Candle but can not see it.

    Supply Demand, Huge Trade AND/OR Big Vlm.

    Thank you guys for staying with it.

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    I don't know if anybody has mentioned it yet, but what about COT data? That would actually add another 3 dimensions to the normal two, but you might sort of condense the three COT bands (weighting each one separately) into one measurement representing the weighting of positions from short to long. What do you believe?

    If you're unfamiliar with COT information, check out http://www.shatterfield.com/cot.whatis.php for a fast summary.

    Oooh, just thought of a very cool idea. There's a way to condense three dimensions into one - RGB colour! You could break each bar into two segments (either vertically or horizontally...) and colour each segment in line with the joint strength of the groups. For example:
    You would define the range of Commercial brief commnt to be 0-4000 contracts. Say the value was assigned by you . The Com divide. COT by 4000 then multiply by 255 (an 8-bit number, one third of 24-bit color) to calculate the red component of the brief half of the bar. You would do the same for Noncommercial and Nonreportable, say for blue and green respectively. You would combine these three 8-bit numbers to get your 24-bit colour.
    It might take a bit of time to learn to read the final colour values correctly, but might prove quite intuitive over time. What do you believe? I believe InterbankFX provides a discount on COT information... I started an account with them once but not funded. Maybe just a small will be funded by me and test out the COT data. Or does someone else who has it want to try?

    I'm a software engineer and also have a lot of experience with metatrader, therefore that I think this indior wouldn't be particularly difficult to program. Just a matter of getting hold of the COT data. Again, if anybody knows where I might find a feed, let me know.

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    My Quasi-3D chart.
    Still just price and time, though!

    FXS

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;
    Oooh, just thought of a very cool idea.
    Totally cool.

    What would you really need to experiment with this?

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