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vSg
25-04-2025 05:27,
After years of testing strategies, bots, signals, and YouTube systems with capital titles and ridiculous promises, I decided to build my own system from scratch. I call it "Tornillo" because instead of nailing me in one direction, I adjust to the market as a thread: tight, I hope, and spin if it touches. Use three basic components: Range detection in H1 (minimum and maximum automatically marked with a 20-period moving average

vSg
25-04-2025 05:32,
It is not a holy grail nor does magic. It is a system of patience. Average trades per week: 5. Monthly goal: 5% with a drawdown controlled below 8%.

vSg
25-04-2025 05:36,
Today's Trade: Pair: USD/CAD Entry: sale at 1.3682 (rejection of resistance with weak volume breaking)

vSg
25-04-2025 05:40,
Do not expect automatic signals or setups every day. If you are bored to wait, this system is not for you. Better go to scalp with Martingala and cross your fingers.

vSg
25-04-2025 05:43,
I'm programming an EA for this system, but only for alerts, not for it to operate alone. Discretion in volume analysis is key.

vSg
25-04-2025 05:48,
I leave a picture of the setup of EUR/JPY. Two touches in resistance, break with sail without body, green volume going down... classic entry of the Screw.

vSg
25-04-2025 05:52,
Some ask if it works in crypto. The answer: yes, but with much more noise. It requires extending the ATR and moving away SL, which reduces lotage and complicates the risk/benefit ratio.

vSg
25-04-2025 05:57,
I don't understand how you can trust "volume" in forex if there is no central market. What exactly are you measuring? The volume of your broker? That's like looking at the fish tank to understand the ocean.

vSg
25-04-2025 06:02,
Answer for the above: the volume in forex retail is indicative, not absolute. But when you know how to read it together with price action, it becomes a powerful tool. Don't be closed.

vSg
25-04-2025 06:06,
This system has helped me avoid going into false breaks, especially in Asian sessions. The volume filter makes all the difference. Thank you for sharing.

vSg
25-04-2025 06:11,
Any plan to share the indicator that draws the ranges automatically? It would be interesting for those who don�t want to trace everything manually.

vSg
25-04-2025 06:15,
I'm still polishing it, but I'll soon be sharing a basic version. The calculation is based on detecting consolidation zones with low volatility and high number of candles within 1% of range.

vSg
25-04-2025 06:19,
Today was an ugly day. Three setups, two were invalidated before entering and one was activated but played the SL. Still, I remain positive this week. The important thing is not to win always, but to lose little.

vSg
25-04-2025 06:24,
I've been combining this system with RSI divergences to tune in. It's not part of the original system, but it helps to have more confidence in rejections.

vSg
25-04-2025 06:28,
Last comment for today: if you are looking for a system to become rich in two weeks, this is not the thread. But if you are tired of the noise and you are looking for structure and control, welcome to the Screw. Here we turn slow, but firm.

vSg
25-04-2025 06:31,
One of the big mistakes that I see in most traders that try to systems based on ranges or breaks is that they do not understand the structure of the market. Using a system like �Tornillo� is not simply to expect the price to touch a resistance and sell, or a support zone and buy. It is to understand why the price arrived there, what volume pushed it, if there is institutional interest in maintaining that level, and if the rejection is real or just a temporary pause. When these factors add up, it is when there is a high probability input. Another fundamental aspect is the emotional management. This system can spend days without giving a clear signal, and that it frustrates those who are used to operate by impulse or emotion. Patience is not a recommendation, it is a rule. If you do not know how to expect, you will lose money by entering in mediocre setups. The market rewards that you know how to say �not today� as well as the one who knows how to say �yes, now�. As far as to the volume, I understand the debate about its use in forex.

NiSgar3
25-04-2025 06:36,
Thanks for this piece of explanation, he opened my head, really.

jossyNg1997
25-04-2025 06:40,
And what do you do when the price breaks with high volume but no backsliding?

yaSugak
25-04-2025 06:44,
Very useful approach of the SL. Almost no one explains it this way.

Desy07
25-04-2025 06:49,
Good contribution, but I still don't trust the volume of ticks. It's like reading a book with blank leaves.

Sbonutwz97
25-04-2025 06:54,
I like the idea of understanding what's behind the movement, not just following flechitas.

jaaxju44
25-04-2025 06:59,
The part about the stops and where the dough puts them is pure gold. That�s understanding the real game.

Todrichu39
25-04-2025 07:04,
Thank you for this comprehensive explanation, it helped me to better understand how to apply real ranges.

yaesnes95
25-04-2025 07:09,
Don't you think it's too much to trust a volume that doesn't represent the real market?

jttoesnCiTo
25-04-2025 07:12,
Thank you for sharing something so well structured, you rarely see this level in a forum.

1426
25-04-2025 07:16,
I took notes, I'll reread it several times.

esnTruSa
25-04-2025 07:20,
Thank you very much for the detail. The subject of the SL opened my eyes.

jatuyess47
25-04-2025 07:26,
And what do you think of complementing with footprint charts? There you do have real volume data.

osthorniresy
25-04-2025 07:29,
How do you differentiate between an accumulation and a simple pause in the price stock?

esnutesSaT
25-04-2025 07:35,
When do you decide to invalidate a range if the price breaks it but not forcefully?

esaxSuesyG96
25-04-2025 07:40,
Thanks a thousand, your point about discipline made me think a lot.

bSescesndoqwrNarox
25-04-2025 07:44,
Thank you! It motivated me to review all my focus on support and resistance zones.

Raky
25-04-2025 07:49,
Great explanation, especially about the ATR. I never used it that way.

jaknySoCak
25-04-2025 07:55,
Thank you for sharing this knowledge. It really is of value.

tsesr
25-04-2025 07:59,
Don't you think so much waiting can make you lose opportunities in other pairs?

axSonesgc
25-04-2025 08:03,
So, if there's a false rupture with a strong volume, maybe you won't come in?

JesCosR
25-04-2025 08:08,
Have you tried this in indexes or just forex? Does it work the same?

Axtott
25-04-2025 08:14,
Thank you for the clarity, few take the time to explain without smoke.

noajosis
25-04-2025 08:18,
Thank you for talking about emotional control, that's what nobody says, and it's key.

axnwS.es.g.v
25-04-2025 08:22,
Thankful for this level of depth. Experience is noticeable.

HeszuC
25-04-2025 08:27,
Thanks for sharing the EA. Just using it for alerts is a good midpoint.

Ovovk
25-04-2025 08:30,
Don't you think waiting so long reduces your execution rate and limits your growth?

hoc618
25-04-2025 08:35,
If the market changes its behavior, won't you run out of signals for weeks?

Sawordesy
25-04-2025 08:40,
What if several zones of range overlap, how do you choose the most valid one?

oSTirris
25-04-2025 08:44,
Thank you for that view of the stops. Avoiding the obvious areas was pure gold.

Saca22
25-04-2025 08:48,
Thank you for the honesty, enough of the strategies promised by heaven.

Sesiiiresesr
25-04-2025 08:52,
Implementing this is making me operate much less, but much better.

ooCotoo
25-04-2025 08:58,
Thank you for the realistic approach. I can tell you're not selling anything.

Conesbotuca23
25-04-2025 09:01,
Do you think this system would scale if I applied it in several pairs at the same time?

TojiCun
25-04-2025 09:05,
Could you show an example in crypto? You said it was noisy, but not impossible.

sesSiaxres
25-04-2025 09:11,
Have you tested this in manual or automatic backtesting?

wuSCor103
25-04-2025 09:15,
Thank you for being so clear. You gave me more value in a post than many paid courses.

axkoyaiSavoCo
25-04-2025 09:20,
Thank you for bringing down a system that looks complex. Very useful.

joravo50
25-04-2025 09:24,
Thank you for explaining from the logic of the market, not from magical signals.

axrtes0191
25-04-2025 09:30,
Thank you. This kind of content is what makes sense of this forum.

Sothos
25-04-2025 09:33,
Could you expand on how you handle the weeks of high volatility by fundamentals?

eszorux1921
25-04-2025 09:36,
Is it not contradictory to use something as subjective as volume in a technical system?

cSoContos
25-04-2025 09:40,
Do you have fixed rules to invalidate zones or is everything visual and by experience?