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Soakchuca
25-01-2025 04:04,
I found this quite interesting.Does anyone have any opinion about these traders?"The example is the best teaching" - Aesop, Greek author.[http://detachedrader.com] (http://detachedrader.com
guakugua
25-01-2025 04:09,
I love this event about Kovner of the article!"It would be incredibly brilliant in the academic world if the circumstances had taken it along that path. And what distinguishes it from most intellectuals is that it is also brilliant in practice."This is great, thanks for sharing.
esSoxxard
25-01-2025 04:13,
Great post!My favorite is Bruce Kovner.When I think about him, I imagine it as a medieval knight facing a three -headed dragon.His story is fascinating, especially when you read his interview at *Market Wizards *.
NukaSesses
25-01-2025 04:17,
All these traders play at a completely different level from ours.The majority of what they do not apply to retail trading.
kestressTkNo
25-01-2025 04:23,
I propose to add Bill Lipschutz to that list.
Soakchuca
25-01-2025 04:29,
Citing: * "most of what they do not apply to retail trading." * Can you explain that "different level" you are talking about?In addition to having more capital and access to better information, what else makes them unattainable for us?
Bill Lipschutz deserves to be on that list.His obsession with trading is incredible.It is a model to follow for anyone who wants to devote to this.
VucTkrgc19
25-01-2025 04:37,
Citing: * "What else makes them unattainable for us?" * In addition to what you mentioned, these people have an unusual intelligence, self -confidence and the ability to take calculated risks.
Soakchuca
25-01-2025 04:41,
Citing: * "In addition to what you mentioned, these people have an unusual intelligence ..." * That is evident.But I still want to know what Vegas wanted to say with "different level."Is there anything beyond capital and privileged information?
cesCu77gt
25-01-2025 04:44,
A clear example would be Soros.Not only has capital, but literally "broke" the Bank of England.He identified vulnerability in his monetary policy and coordinated a massive short sale that only someone with his resources could execute.
resyak23
25-01-2025 04:50,
Bruce Kovner is fascinating.Does anyone know if their methods are similar to those used by retail traders, or are they completely different?
gSaresystresw
25-01-2025 04:55,
Dan Zanger is impressive because he achieved his fortune as an independent trader, without all the team and the resources that the fund managers have.It shows that, with dedication, it is possible to achieve solo success.
Resuaxn160
25-01-2025 05:01,
Citing: * "Does anyone know if their methods are similar to those we use?" * I think Kovner is in a different league.For example, on one occasion he bought oil tankers to understand how oil moved through maritime routes.That is beyond the reach of most of us.
Roukon36
25-01-2025 05:07,
I am surprised that they do not mention Richard Dennis, the creator of the "Turtle Traders" experiment.Its history also deserves to be on this list.
odiNoryoT
25-01-2025 05:11,
What I like about Jim Rogers is his countercurrent approach.He questions everything and is not afraid to challenge the established norms.He is a true independent thinker.
wwodgesrww
25-01-2025 05:15,
Citing: * "For example, on one occasion he bought oil tankers to understand how oil moved ..." * That's crazy!We are definitely talking about a level of resources that no retailer can reach.
I am inspired to see how these traders not only dominated the markets, but also left a legacy.We all have something to learn from them, even on small scale.
bisuTkto
25-01-2025 05:24,
Soros is a strategic genius.His ability to identify weaknesses in economic systems is incomparable.It is not only capital, but about vision.
JiesSji87
25-01-2025 05:28,
Zanger is interesting because he shows that you don't need a Harvard title or connections on Wall Street to succeed.Its history is proof that perseverance can take you far.
neshiC1982
25-01-2025 05:33,
Has anyone here read * Hot Commodities * by Jim Rogers?It is a must to understand how raw material markets work.
Soakchuca
25-01-2025 05:37,
Do you really believe that Soros is a genius?Come on, it's just a speculator with full pockets that knows where to hit.If any of us had the resources he handles, we could also break central banks.Or not?
besottyk
25-01-2025 05:42,
Of course it is a genius.It is not just money, it is knowing where and how to use it.Soros took calculated risks, while most retail traders cannot even control their emotions in a $ 100 operation.
Soakchuca
25-01-2025 05:47,
Citing: * "It's not just money, it's knowing where and how to use it." * Yes, of course, but don't tell me to have "10 yards" under the mattress does not facilitate things.The truth is that playing in major leagues is not the same as our day to day of Lotes Mini and Spreads Altos.
TesiSesTkrroCaches
25-01-2025 05:50,
And what?Many millionaire traders started from below, as Dan Zanger.Money is just a tool, but knowledge, hard work and emotional control are what makes the difference.
JttorresCakcesSva
25-01-2025 05:54,
It seems to me that you are underestimating the talent of these traders.Soros not only had capital, he had vision.Identifying a weak monetary policy and betting on it is not something that can be done without a bright brain.
Soakchuca
25-01-2025 05:58,
Ok, I recognize that Soros has vision.But what frustrates me is that these traders seem unattainable for others.Do you really believe that retailers can learn something applicable to them?
axruCoCc
25-01-2025 06:01,
Of course.No one says that we are going to break central banks such as soros, but understanding how they think, how they handle risk and how they identify opportunities can help us improve, even on small scale.
It is not about imitating them 100%.It is about taking elements of their strategies and adapting them to our reality.A retailer will not break the bank of England, but can learn to better analyze the market.
Soakchuca
25-01-2025 06:12,
So what tell me about Kovner?Buy oil tankers to understand raw transport routes.That is not something we can do.How do we apply something like that to our trading?
esSbortTiju
25-01-2025 06:15,
It is not about buying oil tankers, it is about understanding that the information is key.What Kovner did was investigate thoroughly.We can do the same, but on our scale: read news, analyze economic data and study graphics.
axnibs96
25-01-2025 06:18,
Kovner simply brought the investigation to the extreme.What we can learn is to be curious and deepen the market details can make a difference.You don't need an oil tanker, but an inquisitive mind.
Soakchuca
25-01-2025 06:23,
And speaking of research, what do you think of Jim Rogers?He seems more earthly, right?Traveling the world and observing first -hand economies is somewhat more accessible, even if it is not cheap.
gesCwSsesn
25-01-2025 06:27,
Rogers is a perfect example of how to think outside the box.While not everyone can travel the world on a motorcycle, we can seek information from different perspectives and not only trust what the headlines say.
Jim Rogers is a teacher of raw materials.What I like about him is that he always seeks to understand the complete panorama, from supply to demand.Its macroeconomic approach is something that we can all try to replicate.
Soakchuca
25-01-2025 06:35,
I like what they say about Rogers.It is a trader that does not follow the masses, and that makes it special.But how do we apply your focus on faster markets like Forex, where everything changes in minutes?
trakua30
25-01-2025 06:39,
In Forex, you could use its opposite philosophy to avoid entering impulsive movements.When everyone is buying, observe why and if it makes sense.Patience and macro perspective are key, even in fast markets.
jostrichCa
25-01-2025 06:43,
The answer is to combine the best of both worlds: Rogers macroeconomic analysis with the speed and precision required by Forex.It is not easy, but with practice, it is possible.
Soakchuca
25-01-2025 06:48,
Of all the mentioned traders, who do you consider the most inspiring?I vote for Dan Zanger.Its history shows that you do not need titles or connections to go far.
CROTXACASEsTEs
25-01-2025 06:53,
I agree.Zanger is an example that with discipline, passion and constant learning, you can achieve great things.He is the most human of all, because he started from scratch and reached heaven.
Takcuhes
25-01-2025 06:58,
For me, the most inspiring is Kovner.Going from a taxi driver to Millionaire Fund Manager is impressive.Its history shows that it is never too late to find your passion and succeed in it.
Soakchuca
25-01-2025 07:01,
Citing: * "It's never too late to find your passion ..." * That is true, but don't you think there is also a little luck in these stories?Many traders work hard and never reach that level.
JarduCachCadunesch
25-01-2025 07:07,
Luck can influence, but it is not everything.The key is to be prepared to take advantage of opportunities when they are presented.It is as they say: "Luck favors the preparations."
jesvuorcesstuxx
25-01-2025 07:13,
Many confuse luck with being in the right place at the right time.Most of these traders created their own fate when preparing, learning and acting when they saw the opportunity.
Soakchuca
25-01-2025 07:17,
So do you think anyone can reach those levels if it works enough?Because sometimes it seems that the market is designed so that small traders always lose.
Jttoto26
25-01-2025 07:21,
I don't think "anyone" can do it.A combination of intelligence, discipline, hard work and, yes, some luck is needed.But if you really dedicate yourself, you can overcome the chances.
nucaSess1x
25-01-2025 07:25,
The market is not against you, it is simply indifferent.Those who lose are those who do not take the time to learn and adapt.If you are willing to do the job, you can win.
Soakchuca
25-01-2025 07:30,
Finally, do you think that studying these traders is still relevant in the current environment, with so much technology and algorithms dominating the markets?
CesrSus11s
25-01-2025 07:36,
Absolutely.Technology has changed the tools, but the basic principles of trading, such as analysis, risk management and psychology, remain the same.
Trading evolves, but the lessons of these traders are timeless.Adapting them to modern technology can give you an advantage, but the foundations never change.
Soakchuca
25-01-2025 07:45,
Citing: * "The lessons of these traders are timeless." * Agree.Now I have a lot to study.Thanks for all the answers, they have been very useful.See you in the graphics!
Evan joseph
02-02-2025 09:29,
It’s a great quote from Aesop! Using examples to learn is powerful. I can't access links, but the idea of learning from traders' experiences and strategies can provide valuable insights. What did you find interesting about the traders on that site?
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